Hong Kong Visas Made Easy

13

Sep 2012

Legal Champion of Immigration Rights in Hong Kong – Mark Daly Talks at the FCC (VIDEO)

Posted by / in Long Stay & PR, Musing / 2 responses

I have known Mark Daly (and his partner Peter Barnes, no relation) since their time with (sadly departed) Pam Baker in the 1990’s. I have the utmost respect for Mark and Peter and in fact these are the only 2 lawyers in Hong Kong that I refer clients of the Hong Kong Visa Centre to when recourse to the courts is needed to achieve the right immigration outcome.

Mark is responsible for the recent legal challenge to the preclusion of Foreign Domestic Helpers from access to permanent residency in Hong Kong, litigation which at the time of writing is presently ongoing.

In this video recorded at the FCC in February of this year, Mark discusses strategic human rights litigation, refugee and convention against torture law, and the limits of Hong Kong’s judicial review process.

 

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07

Sep 2012

Will Any Time You Spend in Hong Kong as a Visitor Count Towards the Magic 7 Years for the Right of Abode?

Posted by / in Hadley Says…, Long Stay & PR / 24 responses

To get the Right of Abode in Hong Kong you need to:

– Spend seven years continuously resident in the HKSAR

– Have taken Hong Kong as your only place of permanent residence

– Be obviously settled here, and

– Have no outstanding taxation liabilities

Moreover, you need to have held a resident visa in all of that time, except for short periods when your immigration status was in a state of administrative flux.

This means that you can start counting the 7 years from when your first residence visa was issued through to the 7th year anniversary.

In that time, any short periods where you unexpectedly had to have a visitor visa  (say, if you were changing employers at the time your employment visa expired, or you had to leave Hong Kong temporarily and your visa expired while you were away) will not count against your ‘continuity of residence’ for the purposes of your permanent residency application.

But it is absolutely vital that you have a valid residence visa at the time you file your application for the Right of Abode AND at the time of its approval – otherwise you simply will not qualify.

More Stuff to Help You Along

10 Must Have Resources for a Successful Hong Kong Permanent Residency Application

Time Spent Outside of Hong Kong With Work – the Impact on Your Right of Abode After 7 Years

Do I Need to Work For the Same Employer for 7 Years to Get the Right of Abode?

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04

Sep 2012

The Visa Geeza on RTHK Radio Three – Sept 2012

Posted by / in Employment Visas, Investment Visas, Long Stay & PR, Musing / 7 responses

Phil and I covered some interesting ground on Morning Brew yesterday morning, driven mostly by recent posts to this Blog.

If you’re interested in hearing more analysis on the Mike Tyson situation, the crazy American who tried to sue his way into an employment visa and the long stay residence options for people holding Capital Investment visas, then you’ll not want to miss our conversation.

Phil also wanted to know if the Hong Kong employment visa process system under the General Employment Policy administered by the HKID is essentially fair or not.

You can hear how it all panned out by clicking here.

I will be visiting Phil next sometime in October, date to be arranged.

In the meantime, why not check out Morning Brew on Facebook and also listen live to Phil’s show via the web here.

 

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02

Sep 2012

Hong Kong Unconditional Stay Status vs. the Right of Abode for CIES Visa Holders

Posted by / in Investment Visas, Long Stay & PR, Your Question Answered / 9 responses

PRACTICE UPDATE: October 2026

Summary of Legacy Position:

This piece tackles the classic question of whether merely holding a CIES visa for seven years automatically guarantees the Right of Abode (Permanent Residency). It clarifies that holding the visa is insufficient on its own if an investor has not satisfied the continuous “ordinary residence” test under Section 2(4) of the Immigration Ordinance. For investors who spend substantial periods abroad, the article identifies Unconditional Stay (UCS) as the statutory safety net granted after seven years of continuous asset maintenance, requiring only a single entry into Hong Kong every 12 months to preserve status.

Compare & Contrast with the New CIES:

In this original analysis by Stephen Barnes, the Hong Kong Visa Geeza, our firm examined the historical precedents of passive wealth immigration in Hong Kong. While earlier commentaries authored by Stephen Barnes on the 2015 suspension of the Capital Investment Entrant Scheme remain useful for tracing the broader policy arc, practitioners must take care not to apply obsolete rules. The historical threshold of HK$10 million has been replaced by a mandatory commitment of HK$30 million under the updated framework detailed by the Hong Kong Visa Geeza in our New CIES Practice Direction. Furthermore, while early iterations of the original programme permitted residential property acquisitions, the upgraded rules completely exclude residential premises, permitting only non-residential commercial and industrial property subject to a strict statutory cap of HK$10 million. Most importantly, the contemporary scheme introduces the mandatory HK$3 million ring-fenced allocation to the government-directed CIES Investment Portfolio managed by the Hong Kong Investment Corporation (HKIC)—a public-interest vehicle with no precedent under the legacy rules.

The Capital Investment Entrant Scheme is a really neat visa for those well-off enough to be able to afford it. Permanent residency is available at the end of 7 years continuous ordinary residence, but it is not sufficient just to hold the visa – you have to have lived here too…

QUESTION

“Hi Stephen,

I would like to clarify something please. In your article on the Right of Abode you said, “…unless it is obvious, that you have indeed spent a great deal of time continuously outside of Hong Kong during the requisite 7 years.”

Does this apply for Capial Investment Entrant Scheme visa holders? Because we we were absent for quite a significant amount of time (according to the immigration office), but only because we are capital investors, so we are still running businesses outside of HK.

Is there any chance of arguing this? Once again, thank you for your time.”

ANSWER

When the Capital Investment Entrant Scheme (“CIES”) was first implemented it introduced, for the very first time, a category of ‘potential’ resident that had, until that time, not existed in the realm of immigration statuses (stati?) in the HKSAR.

Namely, foreign nationals could secure residency in Hong Kong ‘merely’ through the locking in of a set amount of capital into Hong Kong ‘assets’ as defined by Immigration Regulations from time to time; presently HKD10 million, previously HKD6.5 million.

Under the CIES programme the HKID allow holders of this visa type, and their dependant families, the privilege of residence in the HKSAR all throughout the time they have locked their assets into Hong Kong, ostensibly to benefit Hong Kong through that value seemingly flushing around in the economy here.

Whilst the CIES visa provides the opportunity for the holder to take up residence, there is no compulsion for them to do so. There is, unlike other jurisdictions, no ‘use-it-or-lose-it’ quality to the CIES visa.

Consequently, the question was then begged as to what would happen to CIES visa holders at the end of seven years when, essentially, it becomes possible to apply for permanent residency and thereby be freed from the asset lock in conditions which had prevailed previously?

For those CIES visa holders who have indeed taken up full time residency in the HKSAR throughout the prior 7 years and who can demonstrate that they have taken concrete steps towards making Hong Kong their only place of permanent residence (the “approvability test”) the process of converting to PR is relatively straight forward.

But, where the CIES visa holder manifestly does NOT qualify for the Right of Abode, the HKID inadvertently created a policy lacuna in that, such people should also be able to have access to their locked up capital once again and so should be granted an immigration status which rewarded them for committing their capital whilst not punishing them for not qualifying for the Right of Abode.

For those such CIES visa holders, seemingly yourselves included, you are entitled, automatically, to Unconditional Stay (“UCS”) 7 years after your first CIES period of stay was granted.

The difference between the UCS and the Right of Abode is quite straight forward.

UCS is an administrative convenience afforded by the Director of Immigration, whilst the Right of Abode is a statutory right, enshrined in the Basic Law.

I have laboured the answer to your question in this way to illustrate to you how the HKID will be viewing your circumstances. Namely, the nature of the CIES visa anticipates people in your situation and sets out a ‘post-CIES’ immigration status where, by necessity or otherwise, you were never in a position to fully reside in Hong Kong nor put in place the vestiges of a life where you can properly declare that you’ve taken Hong Kong as your only place of permanent residence.

The bottom line is that possession of a residence visa alone, supported by frequent visits to Hong Kong, is not sufficient to qualify for the Right of Abode.

So the argument you are suggesting will not hold any water I’m afraid.

The best you can expect to get is Unconditional Stay and, even then, you need to ensure that you all enter Hong Kong on at least one occasion each 12 months to maintain it – otherwise your 7 years of asset commitment to Hong Kong will all have been for naught.

More Stuff You May Find Useful or Interesting

The role of Unconditional Stay in Hong Kong today

Can I swap from Hong Kong dependant visa to a Capital Investment Entrant Scheme visa?

Hong Kong Right of Abode application – arguing away missing periods of residence

The long stay visitor’s awkward predicament

How a Hong Kong employment visa application can go completely wrong if you don’t know what you’re doing!

Getting a working visa for Hong Kong is just a matter of filling in the forms, right?

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01

Sep 2012

10 Must-Have Resources for a Successful Hong Kong Permanent Residency Application

Posted by / in Long Stay & PR, Musing, Resource, VG Front Page / 93 responses

Download the slides from my accompanying talk here. Watch my accompanying talk here.

Now that you’ve lived in Hong Kong for a minimum of 7 years continuously, you’ll no doubt be turning your attention to your eligibility for the right of abode and making preparations for a permanent residency application.

To help guide you  in this effort, I have compiled all-in-one place 10 key resources on how to go about preparing, filing and then managing an application for a Hong Kong Permanent Identity Card.

Please let me know in the comments below if you find them useful!

INFOGRAPHIC – Pathways to Permanent Residency in the HKSAR

PODCAST  – Hong Kong Right of Abode Application – Consider Your Strategy & Plan Early

FACT SHEET – Your Hong Kong Right of Abode Application

CHECKLIST – Verifying Your Eligibility for a Permanent Hong Kong Identity Card

VIDEO – Time Spent Outside of Hong Kong With Work – the Impact on Your Right of Abode after 7 Years

PODCAST – Work in HK for 5 Years – Leave for 2 – Then Return – Will I Lose My Continuous Residence for PR Purposes?

VIDEO – Arguing Away Missing Periods of Residence in Your Hong Kong Permanent Residency Application

CASE STUDY – Right of Abode Approval Even With  a  Two Year Continuous Absence from Hong Kong

CASE STUDY – The Twists & Turns of an Unusual Hong Kong Permanent Residency Application

CASE STUDY – Winning a Hong Kong Right of Abode Approval in Record Time – Just 4 Days!

PODCAST  – Overseas Chinese & the Right of Abode in Hong Kong

Please remember, if you ever have any Hong Kong visa or immigration related question, please feel free to Ask A Question and I’ll be happy to give you a PodCast answer within 48 hours, completely free of charge!

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Can you expect the Hong Kong Immigration Department to be flexible in a work visa application if you expect to qualify for the Right of abode a few short weeks later?

From eel farms to chicken sexing – all in a day’s work for the Hong Kong Visa Geeza!

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25

Aug 2012

Mike Tyson – His Criminal Record His Hong Kong Visa …

Posted by / in Employment Visas, Musing, Refusals & Appeals, Visitor Visas / 6 responses

Update May 30, 2023

 

Mike Tyson – His Criminal Record His Hong Kong Visa …

You have probably heard by now.

Yep, one of the meanest and toughest son-of-a-gun’s who ever walked the face of this earth  is coming to town.

Probably.

That’s if he can get a visa, he is.

You see, Mike Tyson has a criminal record; for a  very serious crime. Rape no less. His criminal record his Hong Kong visa?

So what will Wanchai’s Finest make of this?

The picture above I pinched from this article in the Wall Street Journal. Clearly the author of the piece has been on the phone to ask the Immigration Department what they thought of Mr. Tyson’s impending arrival, specifically to find out if he was likely to get a visa or not.

“While Hong Kong has previously barred people from entering the city on the basis of their criminal records, a spokesman for the city’s immigration department said Thursday its visa screening process is “quite fair and doesn’t involve any discrimination regarding whether or not they have a criminal record.” Cases such as Mr. Tyson’s would be considered on an individual basis, the spokesman added.”

The CLSA Investors Forum 2012  is to be held on the 10th-14th of September in Hong Kong. Interestingly the CLSA itself is owned by a Chinese State Owned Enterprise. Lots of undercurrent here…

As a US citizen, ordinarily, if he were coming to Hong Kong just to paint pictures of the harbour, he would not require a visa in advance of his arrival. He could present himself at the airport and seek 90 days entry as a visitor.

This would then put the examining Officer on the spot as to whether to admit him or not.

Other high profile characters previously incarcerated for crimes overseas have been refused entry before. Remember “Mr Nice” Howard Marks? He was denied admission a couple of years ago, although in his case he did write a book in which he admitted to crimes in Hong Kong previously (he brokered major drug deals out of Chung King Mansions in the 1980s if I remember properly).

Mike Tyson needs an employment visa to come and speak at this conference. He’s arguably not crossing the Pacific for free, so he’s coming for paid work. Even if it’s just a one hour Key Note speech, he needs a visa to undertake this assignment.

So ImmD have a chance to consider his criminal record without the pressure of an airport encounter.

So to all those folks who search this Blog for ‘criminal record’ or ask me for specific advice on this matter via our Your Questions Answered PodCast service, you’re going to learn very soon, in a very public way, what the Hong Kong Immigration Department make of criminal records.

If Mike Tyson gets his visa, there’s hope for you too!

His Criminal Record His Hong Kong Visa – What If The Conviction Is Already Spent?

Of course, the million dollar question right now is will the existence of a prior criminal conviction automatically disqualify an applicant? If not, what is the threshold? Will ‘spent’ convictions need to be disclosed?

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Mike Tyson: Welcome in Hong Kong, New Zealand Say No, Australia Still Deciding

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22

Aug 2012

The Reality For Same Sex Partner Visa Applicants in Hong Kong

Posted by / in Family Visas, Hadley Says…, Visitor Visas / 7 responses

Unfortunately, Hong Kong immigration policy does not recognize same sex partners so there is no possibility of securing dependant visas for gay partners who are trailing their loved ones to Hong Kong when there is a transfer here from overseas for employment or otherwise business investment.

However, the Hong Kong Immigration Department are not without heart and are fully aware of the need for same sex partners to continue their lives together in Hong Kong and do afford extended visitor visa permissions, with reentry facilities, to those partners who have cohabitated prior to relocating to the HKSAR.

In order to qualify for such immigration permissions the couple need to demonstrate they are in a loving committed relationship of some standing, have shared their lives together for at least a few years and, ideally, that their relationship has been recognized  by governmental agencies in the country where they presently live, or have lived previously.

Whilst the prolonged visitor visa issued is only a ‘slippers and pipe’ visa (meaning no entitlement to work, study or join in a business) it will allow same sex couples to be together and provides a foothold in Hong Kong for the trailing partner to explore other residence visa  possibilities over time.

Not ideal – but not entirely bad either!

More Info to Help You Along

What visa options exist for unmarried, trailing partners in Hong Kong?

Case Study: Hong Kong employment and same sex partner visa solution

Hong Kong Travel Pass used to keep an extended family together – quite lawfully!

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