Hong Kong Visas Made Easy

19

Sep 2012

Hong Kong Visa Application – Student to Investment – With a Twist!

Posted by / in Case Study, Investment Visas / 2 responses

Our client was UK national who had, prior to deciding to study in Hong Kong, redomiciled his relatively new, yet manifestly profitable business, here from the south of England.

Britain’s loss, Hong Kong’s gain.

His business partner, also a UK citizen, had independently applied for an investment visa some months earlier and had been approved to come and run their business in Hong Kong.

Whilst still small, the company was obviously going places.

Our client, on the other hand, was more interested in furthering his engineering studies in Hong Kong and initially had no desire nor intention to participate in the affairs of the business.

Consequently he enrolled in a Masters Degree programme on a full time basis in a Hong Kong university and was granted a student visa.

This client initially approached us for advice in respect of the lawfulness of him receiving dividends from the business whilst he was in possession of a student visa.

At the time we advised him that, so long as he was not engaged in the management, direction or administration or the affairs of the company, the Immigration Department would perceive the money received as investment income and not an emolument resulting from the holding of any office nor undertaking any work in his business.

Several months later the client contacted us once more.

Whilst he was a full time student, it had transpired that the material he was learning about in his post graduate programme, was directly relevant to his business and, conversely, the activities of his company were now directly relevant to what he was preparing for his thesis.

So he wanted to join in his business in an active way and adjust his study mode from full time to part time.

This required an application to the Immigration Department for him to adjust his status from student visa to an investment visa with special dispensation for him to convert his Master Degree studies from full time to part time.

After about 12 weeks the process of satisfying the approvability test in respect of the investment visa element of the application was effectively complete.

Now it came down to the approval of the university for a change in study mode from full time to part time.

The first run at documenting this change of study mode, resulted in a letter from the engineering faculty, not from the university registrar, and was crafted to appear conditional on the HKID approving this new scheme of arrangement.

For their part, the HKID would not accept this faculty level communication as it was merely conditional and it needed to be definitive.

Our client then went back to the Registrar who communicated with the Head of Faculty who agreed that the change of study mode was acceptable and therefore the Registrar issued the requisite letter.

Consequently,  our client’s case was finalized positively and he was granted his investment visa with the requisite dispensation to study.

Here’s the twist.

Had our client been able to read the tea leaves he would never have applied to study for his Masters Degree full time.

He would have, instead, secured an investment visa from the get go and applied to undertake his studies on a part time basis AFTER his investment visa was approved as, under current immigration policy, a student visa is needed only for a full time course of study.

If you are holding a Hong Kong employment visa or an investment visa you are lawfully able to take up a part time course of study without any specific permission from the HKID to do so.

So going from Student visa to Investment visa turned into a complete palaver as the university knew full well that any part time course of study would not require their participation in an immigration scenario.

As our client was a full time student under their immigration charge, the university became an integral facet of the application which went on to add several weeks and a lot of to-ing and fro-ing with the HKID to get the visa approval over the line.

Complex yes, but credit to the Department, the right immigration outcome was achieved in the end.

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15

Sep 2012

The Shiny New D-I-Y Hong Kong Visa Kit – Get Yours Today – 100% FREE!

Posted by / in Employment Visas, Family Visas, Hadley Says…, Investment Visas, Long Stay & PR, Refusals & Appeals, Special Programmes, Visitor Visas / 22 responses

Getting a visa to live in Hong Kong can be a complicated process. Understanding what it takes to get your application approved is not easy to fathom as the Hong Kong Immigration Department website is informative but not especially useful.

Instead you can use the free service from the Hong Kong Visa Centre.

In the Hong Kong Visa D-I-Y Kit you get:

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(2)    4 x 15 minutes video tutorials, one each day for 4 days.

(3)    All the templates, presentations, screen casts, checklists and How To-s of the Hong Kong Visa Handbook, and

(4)    All your questions answered, for free, via Podcast on the Hong Kong Visa Geeza blog.

GET YOUR FREE HONG KONG VISA D-I-Y KIT HERE!

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13

Sep 2012

Legal Champion of Immigration Rights in Hong Kong – Mark Daly Talks at the FCC (VIDEO)

Posted by / in Long Stay & PR, Musing / 2 responses

I have known Mark Daly (and his partner Peter Barnes, no relation) since their time with (sadly departed) Pam Baker in the 1990’s. I have the utmost respect for Mark and Peter and in fact these are the only 2 lawyers in Hong Kong that I refer clients of the Hong Kong Visa Centre to when recourse to the courts is needed to achieve the right immigration outcome.

Mark is responsible for the recent legal challenge to the preclusion of Foreign Domestic Helpers from access to permanent residency in Hong Kong, litigation which at the time of writing is presently ongoing.

In this video recorded at the FCC in February of this year, Mark discusses strategic human rights litigation, refugee and convention against torture law, and the limits of Hong Kong’s judicial review process.

 

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STOP PRESS!! – Hitler’s HKSAR passport application has been refused

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07

Sep 2012

Will Any Time You Spend in Hong Kong as a Visitor Count Towards the Magic 7 Years for the Right of Abode?

Posted by / in Hadley Says…, Long Stay & PR / 24 responses

To get the Right of Abode in Hong Kong you need to:

Spend seven years continuously resident in the HKSAR

Have taken Hong Kong as your only place of permanent residence

Be obviously settled here, and

Have no outstanding taxation liabilities

Moreover, you need to have held a resident visa in all of that time, except for short periods when your immigration status was in a state of administrative flux.

This means that you can start counting the 7 years from when your first residence visa was issued through to the 7th year anniversary.

In that time, any short periods where you unexpectedly had to have a visitor visa  (say, if you were changing employers at the time your employment visa expired, or you had to leave Hong Kong temporarily and your visa expired while you were away) will not count against your ‘continuity of residence’ for the purposes of your permanent residency application.

But it is absolutely vital that you have a valid residence visa at the time you file your application for the Right of Abode AND at the time of its approval – otherwise you simply will not qualify.

More Stuff to Help You Along

10 Must Have Resources for a Successful Hong Kong Permanent Residency Application

Time Spent Outside of Hong Kong With Work – the Impact on Your Right of Abode After 7 Years

Do I Need to Work For the Same Employer for 7 Years to Get the Right of Abode?

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04

Sep 2012

The Visa Geeza on RTHK Radio Three – Sept 2012

Posted by / in Employment Visas, Investment Visas, Long Stay & PR, Musing / 7 responses

Phil and I covered some interesting ground on Morning Brew yesterday morning, driven mostly by recent posts to this Blog.

If you’re interested in hearing more analysis on the Mike Tyson situation, the crazy American who tried to sue his way into an employment visa and the long stay residence options for people holding Capital Investment visas, then you’ll not want to miss our conversation.

Phil also wanted to know if the Hong Kong employment visa process system under the General Employment Policy administered by the HKID is essentially fair or not.

You can hear how it all panned out by clicking here.

I will be visiting Phil next sometime in October, date to be arranged.

In the meantime, why not check out Morning Brew on Facebook and also listen live to Phil’s show via the web here.

 

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02

Sep 2012

Hong Kong Unconditional Stay Status vs. the Right of Abode for CIES Visa Holders

Posted by / in Investment Visas, Long Stay & PR, Your Question Answered / 9 responses

The Capital Investment Entrant Scheme is a really neat visa for those well-off enough to be able to afford it. Permanent residency is available at the end of 7 years continuous ordinary residence, but it is not sufficient just to hold the visa – you have to have lived here too…

QUESTION

“Hi Stephen,

I would like to clarify something please. In your article on the Right of Abode you said, “…unless it is obvious, that you have indeed spent a great deal of time continuously outside of Hong Kong during the requisite 7 years.”

Does this apply for Capial Investment Entrant Scheme visa holders? Because we we were absent for quite a significant amount of time (according to the immigration office), but only because we are capital investors, so we are still running businesses outside of HK.

Is there any chance of arguing this? Once again, thank you for your time.”

ANSWER

When the Capital Investment Entrant Scheme (“CIES”) was first implemented it introduced, for the very first time, a category of ‘potential’ resident that had, until that time, not existed in the realm of immigration statuses (stati?) in the HKSAR.

Namely, foreign nationals could secure residency in Hong Kong ‘merely’ through the locking in of a set amount of capital into Hong Kong ‘assets’ as defined by Immigration Regulations from time to time; presently HKD10 million, previously HKD6.5 million.

Under the CIES programme the HKID allow holders of this visa type, and their dependant families, the privilege of residence in the HKSAR all throughout the time they have locked their assets into Hong Kong, ostensibly to benefit Hong Kong through that value seemingly flushing around in the economy here.

Whilst the CIES visa provides the opportunity for the holder to take up residence, there is no compulsion for them to do so. There is, unlike other jurisdictions, no ‘use-it-or-lose-it’ quality to the CIES visa.

Consequently, the question was then begged as to what would happen to CIES visa holders at the end of seven years when, essentially, it becomes possible to apply for permanent residency and thereby be freed from the asset lock in conditions which had prevailed previously?

For those CIES visa holders who have indeed taken up full time residency in the HKSAR throughout the prior 7 years and who can demonstrate that they have taken concrete steps towards making Hong Kong their only place of permanent residence (the “approvability test”) the process of converting to PR is relatively straight forward.

But, where the CIES visa holder manifestly does NOT qualify for the Right of Abode, the HKID inadvertently created a policy lacuna in that, such people should also be able to have access to their locked up capital once again and so should be granted an immigration status which rewarded them for committing their capital whilst not punishing them for not qualifying for the Right of Abode.

For those such CIES visa holders, seemingly yourselves included, you are entitled, automatically, to Unconditional Stay (“UCS”) 7 years after your first CIES period of stay was granted.

The difference between the UCS and the Right of Abode is quite straight forward.

UCS is an administrative convenience afforded by the Director of Immigration, whilst the Right of Abode is a statutory right, enshrined in the Basic Law.

I have laboured the answer to your question in this way to illustrate to you how the HKID will be viewing your circumstances. Namely, the nature of the CIES visa anticipates people in your situation and sets out a ‘post-CIES’ immigration status where, by necessity or otherwise, you were never in a position to fully reside in Hong Kong nor put in place the vestiges of a life where you can properly declare that you’ve taken Hong Kong as your only place of permanent residence.

The bottom line is that possession of a residence visa alone, supported by frequent visits to Hong Kong, is not sufficient to qualify for the Right of Abode.

So the argument you are suggesting will not hold any water I’m afraid.

The best you can expect to get is Unconditional Stay and, even then, you need to ensure that you all enter Hong Kong on at least one occasion each 12 months to maintain it – otherwise your 7 years of asset commitment to Hong Kong will all have been for naught.

More Stuff You May Find Useful or Interesting

The role of Unconditional Stay in Hong Kong today

Can I swap from Hong Kong dependant visa to a Capital Investment Entrant Scheme visa?

Hong Kong Right of Abode application – arguing away missing periods of residence

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01

Sep 2012

10 Must-Have Resources for a Successful Hong Kong Permanent Residency Application

Posted by / in Long Stay & PR, Musing, Resource, VG Front Page / 91 responses

Download the slides from my accompanying talk here. Watch my accompanying talk here.

Now that you’ve lived in Hong Kong for a minimum of 7 years continuously, you’ll no doubt be turning your attention to your eligibility for the right of abode and making preparations for a permanent residency application.

To help guide you  in this effort, I have compiled all-in-one place 10 key resources on how to go about preparing, filing and then managing an application for a Hong Kong Permanent Identity Card.

Please let me know in the comments below if you find them useful!

INFOGRAPHIC – Pathways to Permanent Residency in the HKSAR

PODCAST  – Hong Kong Right of Abode Application – Consider Your Strategy & Plan Early

FACT SHEET – Your Hong Kong Right of Abode Application

CHECKLIST – Verifying Your Eligibility for a Permanent Hong Kong Identity Card

VIDEO – Time Spent Outside of Hong Kong With Work – the Impact on Your Right of Abode after 7 Years

PODCAST – Work in HK for 5 Years – Leave for 2 – Then Return – Will I Lose My Continuous Residence for PR Purposes?

VIDEO – Arguing Away Missing Periods of Residence in Your Hong Kong Permanent Residency Application

CASE STUDY – Right of Abode Approval Even With  a  Two Year Continuous Absence from Hong Kong

CASE STUDY – The Twists & Turns of an Unusual Hong Kong Permanent Residency Application

CASE STUDY – Winning a Hong Kong Right of Abode Approval in Record Time – Just 4 Days!

PODCAST  – Overseas Chinese & the Right of Abode in Hong Kong

Please remember, if you ever have any Hong Kong visa or immigration related question, please feel free to Ask A Question and I’ll be happy to give you a PodCast answer within 48 hours, completely free of charge!

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The Impact of Brain Drain on Hong Kong and Resulting Immigration Policy Development

The Visa Geeza on RTHK Radio Three

Can you expect the Hong Kong Immigration Department to be flexible in a work visa application if you expect to qualify for the Right of abode a few short weeks later?

From eel farms to chicken sexing – all in a day’s work for the Hong Kong Visa Geeza!

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