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Aug 2022

Can You Claim Right of Abode in Hong Kong if Your Deceased Spouse Had PR Here But You Didn’t Live With Him at the Time of His Death?

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Is the Right of Abode in Hong Kong passed along to the spouse of a permanent resident such that is claimable after the death of your PR holding husband..?

QUESTION

This query is for  my cousin who is an adult.

She was born in Pakistan and got married to a Hong Kong non-Chinese permanent resident.

She has been in Hong Kong many times first after her marriage in 1994 then various times up to  2003.

She has two children one of which was born in Hong Kong.

She currently resides in Pakistan.

She was in Pakistan with her 2 children when she found out her husband passed away in Hong Kong.

She returned once to Hong Kong to verify this,but then came back to Pakistan with her children who were infants at the time.

She now feels able to cope with life in Hong Kong without her husband now that he children are older.

My query: Is there any basis or chance that she may be able to gain right of abode?

I would be grateful if you could help.

ANSWER

As a foreign national seeking to become a permanent resident of Hong Kong, there is a very defined way to go about procuring permanent residency status and unfortunately, it doesn’t transfer to a spouse of a diseased permanent resident by virtue of the fact of death.

The Right of Abode in Hong Kong is directly tied to having been continuously an ordinary resident in Hong Kong for a period of not less than seven years immediately before you apply for the status. So, if we look at your cousin’s immigration profile in Hong Kong, it would appear that sometime after 1994 when she got married assumingly to a person who subsequently went on to become a permanent resident of Hong Kong after 1997, she would have during her time together with her husband have had a dependent visa sponsored by him so from the period after 1997 if she did not live continuously in Hong Kong for at least seven years in her own right, then she at best would have at the time that she made her last departure in 2003 have been merely a dependent visa holder.

And if that dependent visa, on the one hand, was not extended, whilst she was in Pakistan and to even if it had been extended if she was not resident in Hong Kong with her husband and indeed her children at that time it would very difficult to sustain the idea that she was continuously and ordinarily resident in Hong Kong after 2003. But I don’t have any specific instructions as to what her immigration status was at that point in time.

So I will just make the assumption that as of 2003 she was not a permanent resident and that she would not be entitled to apply for permanent residency by virtue of the fact that she was not resident in Hong Kong she was indeed at all times after 2003 resident in Pakistan.

So, given that her husband subsequently died holding a permanent residency for Hong Kong, unfortunately in her own rights notwithstanding her marriage to an individual with that status if she’s not in Hong Kong herself holding a dependent visa she can’t claim ordinary residence so she will never be able to qualify for the Right of Abode.

So, unfortunately, that closes the avenue in relation to her husband. Now, you also make the point that one of her two children was born in Hong Kong, again, without any evidence as to the immigration status of the child it’s difficult to advise whether this would apply to her or not but I will make an assumption that one of the children did secure or at least have the eligibility for the Right Of Abode established at the time of his or her birth and on the basis that until he’s 21 he can show that he’s been settled in Hong Kong, he will at the age of 21 be able to become a permanent resident in his own or her own right and on the basis that your cousin is an over 60 years of age and this child who is holding the Right Of Abode can show to the Immigration Department that he is settled in Hong Kong rather tthan being settled in Pakistan then that child will be able to sponsor its mother, who will be over 60 years of age, for dependent visa permissions as a dependent elderly parent.

But that’s a couple of initiatives sort of down the track as it were, but that would appear to be an option going forward. But it’s not sufficient just to have a status at the age of 21 as a child, he needs have been settled in Hong Kong to be able to be a valid sponsor for an elderly parent’s dependent visa permission. And then assuming that your cousin comes to Hong Kong and lives in Hong Kong continuously for seven years as a dependent elderly parent sponsored by a permanent resident child who settled in Hong Kong she will be able to then go on to secure Right of Abode subsequently but she won’t be able to do while sitting in Pakistan. She’ll have to be in Hong Kong.

Okay, I’ll be found this useful.

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Aug 2022

Are Short Term Teaching Programmes Delivered by Non-resident Educators Subject to Normal Hong Kong Immigration Policy?

Posted by / in Employment Visas, Your Question Answered / 3 responses

First Published August 2, 2017 – Now See This Update

QUESTION

As a school we regularly invite specialist teachers (generally musicians or artists) to visit from overseas and provide workshops for both students and staff.  We pay these specialists a fee and provide accommodation and flights.  Generally the visit will last two weeks.  Is it necessary to obtain an employment visa for these people?  We have asked the Immigration Department but they will not provide a definitive answer.  Many thanks.

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Jul 2022

Do I Still Need a Hong Kong Working Visa if I’ve Been Placed on Gardening Leave?

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You always need a Hong Kong working visa to take up employment in Hong Kong whether paid or unpaid. What about if you are serving out your notice period on gardening leave?

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(First Published June 4, 2015)

QUESTION

My friend resigned from his job with his Hong Kong employer in May and he was on placed on garden leave right away. 

His last date of reporting is in November (he is serving out 6 months notice for his resignation). 

However, his Hong Kong working visa will expire in the middle of this month (June). 

The employer is not willing to help to extend his Hong Kong working visa. 

Could you suggest anything my friend can do?

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18

Jul 2022

Can a Hong Kong Sole Proprietorship Form the Basis of a Self-Sponsored Change of Sponsorship Hong Kong Work Visa Approval?

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Can you get a self-sponsored change of sponsorship Hong Kong work visa? Fantastic question this which took me 10 minutes to think the answer through for!

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QUESTION

As an expat, I currently work for a company that sponsored me in Hong Kong for my work visa

I now no longer want to work exclusively for the company but as a consultant. 

My wife has registered a business, a sole proprietorship in Hong Kong, to which I want to move my employment.

My former company will give my wife’s company a consulting contract. 

Can I transfer my work permit to a sole proprietorship? 

We also are looking to hire one person. 

Can a sole proprietor make hires in Hong Kong?  

Another wrinkle is that my wife’s visa is attached to my employment visa, what happens to her dependant visa if I change my sponsor?

Thank you

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Jul 2022

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05

Jul 2022

Want To Be An Entrepreneur In Hong Kong?

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Want To Be An Entrepreneur In Hong Kong?

Covid19 has been, and continues to be, the bane of Hong Kong but it’s going to end, sooner rather than later, and now is the ideal time to bring forward those long standing plans to ditch the rat race of full time employment and get your entrepreneurial mojo kick started to progress your fortunes in our beloved HKSAR.

To help you move forward, I am pleased to announce a Webinar on July 7, 2022 @ PM with my colleagues Will Probert of Zzzzip Ltd and Bertrand Theaud of banking solutions provider Statrys.

From difficulty to success, hear how we ourselves as entreprenuers managed this journey and built our businesses in Hong Kong and internationally!

We’ll cover:

✅ How to set up a company in Hong Kong
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04

Jul 2022

What Can be Said to Constitute ‘Ordinary Residence’ for the Purposes of a Hong Kong Right of Abode Application?

Posted by / in Long Stay & PR, Your Question Answered / 24 responses

This post was first published on December 9, 2012.

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The question of what constitutes ‘ordinary residence’ in the determination of a Hong Kong right of abode application for a 7 year foreign national resident, can, ultimately, only be settled by the Court. The Hong Kong Immigration Department have their own means of assessing whether an applicant has been ordinarily resident here and if they deem you not to be so ordinarily resident (due to the pattern of your life) then you first appeal to the Registration of Persons Tribunal and thereafter, if still not persuaded, it means an application to the Court for a determination based on the actual facts.

QUESTION

Dear Visa Geeza,

I moved to Hong Kong from Canada in August 2008 to work for a relatively large company in Hong Kong, part of a overseas publicly listed group.  Your website, by the way, is unbelievably detailed and a great resource. I only wish I had come across it a few years ago.

My question is with regard to being eligible for the  Right of Abode 7 years later.

I moved to Hong Kong in August of 2008, having spent about 10/11 years living and working in Canada. I hold a British passport (full citizen) though I was born in Rhodesia and schooled there till I was 21, and then went abroad to do postgraduate study and never returned back although my parents and the rest of extended family live there.

My child was born in Hong Kong in late 2009.

From about May 2010 my employment required me to travel overseas regularly and actually required me to spend a lot of time abroad in Western Europe and the US for new product design and development which is a crucial part of my role.

As this role required me to be abroad for a long time, I ‘moved’ my wife and child to the UK rather than have them to live alone in Hong Kong while I worked abroad in the UK, the USA and Europe for months.  We stopped renting our place in Hong Kong when we went to the UK in May 2010. 

We left all of our stuff stored with some very close friends and a cousin who moved here a few years ago – either stored or they use until we come back.

In the meantime I am still employed by my employer in Hong Kong and I pay the requisite income taxes here in Hong Kong.

My wife, child and I still update and maintain all our HK visa documents allowing us to live in HK. Both of them have maintained their dependant visa status, continuously, since temporarily moving to UK.

I am not able to refuse my company’s requirement that I am flexible and can work abroad and I like my work, but I also want to stay in Hong Kong permanently for the long term.

We both still have our bank accounts, credit cards in Hong Kong.

I have been in Hong Kong usually for about 65 to 80 days a year since I have been based temporarily abroad.

When I am in Hong Kong I either stay with my close friends, cousin or if I am unable to stay with them, I rent a serviced apartment for the time I am here.

I anticipate that this situation will continue for at least another 3 odd years before we can be back in Hong Kong, and I have been promoted to a higher position which does not involve so much travel.

I am pretty confident that my employers would be able to document  that I am required to be abroad for long periods of time for work purposes and whatever else that is necessary to explain.

I wonder if you can help to guide me as to whether my future application for Right of Abode based on the above would stand any chance of being successful.

After having read your site, I think there may be problems on obtaining HK PR, pertaining to my situation – that is really depressing as I really want to live and settle down in Hong Kong.

Would you be able to help or guide me in any way?

Case Law Dealing with ‘Ordinary Residence’

Inland Revenue Commissioner v. Levene [1928] AC 217

At page 243 Lord Sumner said:

“….. the word ‘ordinarily’ may be taken first. The Act on the one hand does not say ‘usually’ or ‘most of the time’ or ‘exclusively’ or ‘principally’ nor does it say on the other hand ‘occasionally’ or ‘exceptionally’ or ‘now and then’, though in various sections it applies the word resident, with a full sense of choice, adverbs like ‘temporarily’ and ‘actually’. I think the converse to ‘ordinarily’ is ‘extraordinarily’ and that part of the regular order of a man’s life adopted for voluntarily and for settled purposes is not extraordinary.”

The governing authority on the meaning of ‘ordinary resident’ is:

R. v. Barnet LBC ex parte Shah [1983] 2 AC 309 a decision of the House of Lords

In this case decided under the Education Act, Lord Scarman held that the natural and ordinary meaning of the words ‘ordinary resident’ has been authoratively determined by the House of Lords in two tax cases, namely:

Inland Revenue Commissioner v. Levene [1928] AC 217  and  IRC v. Lysaght [1928] AC 234

In Lau San Ching v. Liu, Apollonia [1995] 5 HKPLR 23 Cheung J extracted the following principles from the judgment of Lord Scarman in  R. v. Barnet LBC ex parte Shah (discussed in pages 30~31):

“(1) Ordinary Resident is not a term of art in English law (p340).

  (2) In their natural and ordinary meaning the words ‘ordinarily resident’ mean ‘that the person must be habitually and normally resident here, apart from temporary or occasional absences of long or short duration’. The significance of the adverb ‘habitually’ is that it recalls two necessary features mentioned by Viscount Sumner in Lysaght, namely residence adopted voluntarily and for settled purpose (p342).

 (3) The decision in each of the decided cases depended on its own facts and such dicta as can be culled from the reported judgments must be read with that in mind (p342)

 (4) A person could be ordinarily resident in two countries at the same time. This is a significant feature of the word’s ordinary meaning for it is an important factor distinguishing ordinary residence from domicile (p342)

 (5) Unless it can be shown that the statutory framework or the legal context in which the words are used required a different meaning, ‘ordinary resident’ refers to a man’s abode in a particular place or country which he has adopted voluntarily and for settled purposes as part of the regular order of his life for the time being, whether of short or long duration. (p343).

 (6) One exception is that if a man’s presence in a particular place or country is unlawful, eg in breach of the immigration laws, he cannot rely on his unlawful residence as constituting ordinary residence. (p343)

 (7) There are two, and no more than two, respects in which the mind of the person is important in determining ordinary residence. The residence must be voluntarily adopted. Enforced presence by reason of kidnapping or imprisonment, or a Robinson Crusoe existence on a desert island with no opportunity of escape, may be so overwhelming a factor as to negative the view to be where one is.

 There must be a degree of settled purpose. The purpose may be one or several. It may be specific or general. It is not necessary that the person intends to stay where he is indefinitely. The purpose, while settled, may be for a limited period. Education, business, profession, employment, health, family or merely love of the place are common reasons for a choice of regular abode. All that is necessary is that the purpose of living where he does has a sufficient degree of continuity to be properly described as settled (p344).

(8) The legal advantage of adopting the natural and ordinary is that it results in the proof of ordinary residence which is ultimately a question of fact depending more upon the evidence or matters susceptible of objective proof than upon evidence as to state of mind. If there can be proved a regular, habitual mode of life in a particular place, the continuity of which has persisted despite temporary absences, ordinary residence is established, provided only that it is adopted voluntarily and for a settled purpose (p344).

 (9) The ‘real home’ test is wholly inconsistent with the natural and ordinary meaning of the words as construed by the House of Lords in the two tax cases, it is an unhappy echo of domicile.

 This test was further discussed in:

Shanghai Land Holdings Ltd (In Receivership) v. Chau Ching Ngai (unreported) HCA 2704/2003 [2005] HKCU 317 Decided 25 February 2005 (at paragraph 13)

Hon Wuang J.

“…Ordinarily resident’ I believe both sides have agreed is to be given its ordinary and natural meaning… That passage [of Lord Sumner] in Inland Revenue Commissioner v. Levene [1928] AC 217 at page 243 quoted supra] was relied upon by Madam Justice Kwan in the case of In Re Kok Hui Pan, ex parte Wing Lung Bank Ltd [2002] 3 HKLRD 20 as well as by the very full judgment of Mr Justice Cheung in an unreported judgment of  Lau San Ching v. Liu on January 19, 2005 in the case of HCMP 3215/1994. What I perhaps should emphasize by a reading of Lord Sumner’s judgment as well as what Madam Justice Kwan and Mr Justice Cheung have said in their separate judgments is that emphasis is not only on resident, but on the other word ‘ordinarily’. My emphasis is particularly on these key words : ‘regular order of a man’s life’, ‘adopted’, ‘voluntarily, ‘for settled purposes’. It is by reference to those criteria that we therefore must look to see whether having regard to the evidence before this court, Mr Chau was ordinarily resident. I think it made very little difference whether the applicable time for the test of ordinary residence in Hong Kong is at the time of the writ or now.”

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