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03

Jan 2024

How Do I Go About Changing Employers To Get A New Hong Kong Employment Visa Sponsor?

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Hong Kong Employment Visa Change Of Sponsorship

Easy Or Hard?

Hong Kong Employment Visa

 

This question comes up all the time (and is actually answered on the home page of our Blog) but I am grateful for the opportunity to revisit it again now…

QUESTION

Hi, I’m currently working in Hong Kong with a valid working visa but have been offered a job with another company in Hong Kong.

My work visa expires in July and I must give one month’s notice with my current employer.

 How does it work in terms of obtaining a new work visa for the new employer– do I have to resubmit all of my uni/school certificates etc as I did the first time round?

Do I need to quit my current job and then apply for the new company or can the new company apply for me whilst I’m still working at my current job?

I am worried that if I quit my first job that my 2nd visa will get rejected and then I will be jobless.

Any help you can give would be greatly appreciated, thank you! 

 

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ANSWER

When you secure an employment visa in Hong Kong you are lawfully employable by the employer, which has successfully sponsored an employment visa for you.

Once you stop working for that sponsoring employer in so far as you are continuing employment visa permissions go, in essence, all bets are off until you make an application to the Immigration Department to change your sponsorship from your old employer through to the proposed new employer.

And in preparing for this application, you need to anticipate that it’s a process that’s very similar to the application that you underwent the first time in so far as getting the visa approved for the status that you’ve got right now. And in the Hong Kong visa handbook employment Visa section, I’ve set out the documentary requirements that govern these types of applications, whether it’s a new application or in fact, it’s a change of sponsorship application.

Now the way that the process works is that you go to the Immigration Department with your completely assembled bundle and you file your application to change your sponsorship, without at this point, if this is in fact the case, having stopped working for your present employer. And during the currency of your new employment visa application your current employer really shouldn’t be privy to what’s going on because Immigration Department certainly won’t correspond with your existing employer. All that will happen is that whilst the Immigration Department are considering your application, which by the way happens on the 5th floor resident section, not the 24th floor entry visa section, so on the fifth floor. So whilst the Immigration Department are considering your application, they will correspond with you directly and that they’ll raise any questions or requests for information or other requisitions that apply in the context of the application before you.

And in so far as the chances of approval go, you need to anticipate that as long as it’s a like-for-like employment, and as long as you are clearly a professional under the general employment policy and the new employer is justified in engaging your services as opposed to the services of a local person, then it’s reasonable to assume that you’re change of sponsorship application will be approved. Normally the Immigration Department respond positively to such applications.

Now the way it works once you’ve got nine tenths of the way through the application process, is that you’ll see that the Immigration Department will call for a document from you, that demarcates the date of last employment with your current employer, so that they can then, when they finalize your approval, set a line between your previous sponsorship and your new sponsorship. They will need a line in the sand, as it were, a date from which the new sponsorship obligations of your new employer will prevail and at the same time relinquishing your old employer, your past employer of their continuing sponsorship in relation to you. And it’s when the Immigration Department call for this document that you’ll get a sense that they are about to finalize your application positively. And at that stage, what you do is you submit your resignation and give a copy of the resignation documentation that sits between you and your current employer, which in turn will denote what your final date of employment is with that old employer and you submit copies of that documentation to the Immigration Department and they will then, as I say, be able to demarcate the old sponsorship from the new sponsorship.

Then, after you’ve been approved you should receive a letter from the Immigration Department stating when your new employment arrangement are going to commence from, that is your new sponsorship, employment visa sponsorship arrangements are going to commence from, inviting you down to go and process an extension to your current limit of stay because at the moment you have less than six months left on your current limit of stay. And these circumstances rather than put Immigration Department resources through, on the one hand, a change of sponsorship application and then a few weeks or months later because your current limiter says going to expire, put Immigration Department resources through a second application, in so far as giving you an extension to your current limit of stay. Usually the Immigration Department as I say, if you’ve got six months or less remaining on your current limit of stay, they normally endorse your passport at the same time as they give you the new approval and normally that 12 months limit starts from the expiry of your current limit of stay, which in this instance would be July.

So in effect, that’s how that process is handled and that’s how that process is managed and included on this post are a lot of other resources that I’ve dealt with challenges associated with the change of sponsorship application that you’re looking to accomplish.

And again, I refer you back to the employment visa section of the Hong Kong Visa Handbook where all the documents that you need, checklists, templates and all the rest of that good stuff that will apply in allowing you to go through that process, you can find them all there.

Just to remind you, because you’re an existing resident you would submit the application on the resident section on the fifth floor of Immigration Tower, not on the 24th floor, which is the entry Visa section, which is where applications for the very first time for the employment visas are considered.

Okay. I hope you found this useful.

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02

Jan 2024

How Do You Prove To The Hong Kong Immigration Department That You Have Tried To Recruit Locally?

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How Do You Prove To ImmD That You Have Tried to Recruit Locally?

What Will The Hong Kong Immigration Department Accept?

Recruit Locally

Excellent question earlier this week. Great opportunity to slay a few sacred cows.

QUESTION

Hi, one of the requirements for the work visa application is a proof of genuine vacancy. What if a sponsoring company doesn’t do job ads? What can he present? He does recruit locally via his network since he is just a small company. Appreciate your inputs.

ANSWER

It’s important to understand that not every job that has a foreign national candidate for it and a consideration of employment visa hanging off it, not every local job needs to have a local worker for it.

It just depends on all the circumstances of the case. There will be circumstances where you can visit the nature of the position and the circumstances that give rise to that foreign national needed to do that work. It becomes very self-evident that no one will exercise what needs to be undertaken. But how it works is if you are asked by the Immigration Department for proof of a local recruitment exercise, you have to show it. That is if you have conducted it, you need to show that you’ve done it. If you’ve conducted it unsuccessfully, you have an opportunity to explain why, supplying proof, how have you gone about the recruitment exercise and then just explaining how that process works.

If you haven’t conducted it, then you have to justify your application from the perspective that you’re the right person for the job. And either way, the sophistication and consideration exercise really gates the question and the mechanics of the recruitment process, to my way of thinking it may really be a bit hard there’s more important things going here.

So you have to be absolutely certain that no local can do a job before you make a claim that no one locally can reasonably be expected to do that job and that’s where all your focus should lie.

Ok, I hope this helps.

 

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01

Jan 2024

Can I Apply For Right Of Abode If My Employment Visa Expires On The Exact 7 Year Anniversary Of My Residence In Hong Kong But I Have No Job On That Date?

Posted by / in Employment Visas, Long Stay & PR, Your Question Answered / 5 responses

Unemployed When Your Eligibility For Right Of Abode Accrues?

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First Published June 4, 2103

Right of Abode

Do you need to be employed on the date that your 7 year anniversary of your residence in Hong Kong comes up which then allows you apply for the right of abode with the wrinkle that your current employment visa expires on exactly the same date?

QUESTION

I started working in Hong Kong with a working visa on 21st of April 2007.

Since then I have been continuously in Hong Kong, but have been made redundant this year.

My current working visa will expire on the 21st of April 2014.

Since I do not have a job, I will not get a new visa, so that day I will also have to leave Hong Kong.

My question: can I apply for the permanent residency on 25th of  April 2014 (as I have been at least 7 years now in Hong Kong, continuously, and I have decided to make it my home) and then leave Hong Kong and come back on a tourist visa while waiting for the -hopefully- approval?

Or just wait abroad untill they contact me?  If not, what should I do to ensure that I at least qualify the requirements for application?

I love Hong Kong so much that it would be a shame to just lose the PR because of that small period I am missing.

Thanks a lot.

 

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Dec 2023

Right of Abode | Continuity of Residence | Time Spent Away From Hong Kong For Education Or Medical Treatment

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Right of Abode & Continuity of Ordinary Residence Calculation

What Counts & What Doesn’t?

 

First Published October 4, 2014

Right of Abode

 

Got 2 very similar questions in recently so I’m taking the opportunity to kill 2 birds with one stone…

QUESTIONS

I have a residency visa and this is my 6th year in Hong Kong. I need to go back to my country due to some medical urgency. What amount of time can I spend outside Hong Kong so that my 7 years of continuous stay here remains unaffected?

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I came to Hong Kong in 2009 as dependent child of my parent. I am supposed to apply for PR in 2015. But I spent more than a year out of Hong Kong to study within this period and I have my academic certificates to support my reason for my stay away. Will the Immigration Department approve my reason or count the 7 years all over again?

 

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30

Dec 2023

I Would Like to Apply for a Job Seekers Visa For Hong Kong | How Do I Go About Doing It?

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Is There Such An Animal As A Job Seekers Visa For Hong Kong?

If There Is, Please Tell Me More …

Job Seekers Visa For Hong Kong

Hong Kong immigration is rife with visa gossip and rumours so I am pleased this question has been raised as it allows me to slay an old dragon once and for all!  

QUESTION

Hi Stephen,

Thanks ever so much for your amazing website. I have never seen anything like this before – and I can’t believe it’s all free!

I have been looking around for details about the Job Seekers Visa For Hong Kong but can’t find anything.

Does this visa actually exist?

I have been told by a couple of people that I can come and live here for 3 months no questions asked as I look for a job, then swap that job seekers visa over to a work visa.

How do I go about doing this?

Thank you again!

 

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Dec 2023

You Accidentally Overstay Your Hong Kong Employment Visa | Need to Change Employer | What Happens Now?

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First Published February 7, 2019

Accidentally Overstay Your Hong Kong Employment Visa

Accidentally overstay your Hong Kong employment visa?- What happens to you when  seek to change your employment visa sponsor but realise you have accidentally let your current visa expire without seeking an extension of stay?

QUESTION

Hi Stephen,

I ended my employment in Hong Kong at the beginning of January.

I looked for work and eventually found and got offered a job, still in Hong Kong, to start in March.

I thought everything was going well. I went in on the 1st of February to sort out the application for the work visa, and they sit me down…

They told me my previous work visa had expired on the 24th of January.

Now, this shocked me. In all the searching and transition to the new job I had completely forgotten to check my old visa.

I had come back after Christmas and assumed I was on a Visitor visa, or that my Employment visa hadn’t run out, because I was allowed back in after my return at Xmas.

I hadn’t checked. This is totally my fault and my mistake, I had completely forgotten.

My new company told me to go straight to Immigration, present myself, put in my new visa application with profuse apologies and explain myself.

I did that, they shouted at me threatening imprisonment.

I had to write a letter to the Director of Immigration explaining what happened.

I did all this, and afterwards the Officer said that was all for today and that they would send a letter to my company in 4-6 weeks.

They let me go with my passport and Hong Kong ID Card, and in my passport is a card with an application reference.

I have no idea what happens now.

They didn’t stamp my passport to allow me to leave the country, so I can’t go and return as a Visitor.

I am here with no visa, and I’m worried that if my work visa is denied, or I am stopped in the meantime, they will imprison me because I stayed here even longer.

No one at my new company is concerned, either because they don’t care or they don’t know. They are backing me and want me to work for them, but that’s it.

So, in your experience, what could happen now? What can I do to find out? How can I protect myself?

 

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ANSWER

Of course, being an overstayer is never a particularly nice thing to experience, but it seems to me that the worst is behind you now.

The advice that you received from your proposed new employer was absolutely on the money, and that was of course to report to the Immigration Department as soon as you discovered they overstay. Do make representations by way of apology and explanation, and in my experience Immigration Department are very often prepared to overlook accidental overstays and it appears from the information you’ve provided me thus far, that in case is in actual fact what did occur.

So, essentially then, by reporting to the Immigration Department you have advised them of the reasons for your overstay, and at the same time you’ve put into them a formal application for you to seek to adjust your sponsor from your old employment visa sponsor through to your proposed new employer.

Because you made the application whilst you were an over-stayer and you overstayed your employment visa, essentially what the Immigration Department are doing is treating your application to change your sponsorship whilst you are in what I’ve couched as the Twilight Zone, and The Twilight Zone is where you are an existing resident, your current conditions of stay prevail, but because you’ve made an application to the Immigration Department to change your employment visa  sponsor, they’re not in the position to endorse your passport with anything new, until such a time as they positively finalize your application to change your sponsor, which will take 4 to 5 weeks all things considered.

So, now that it’s sitting in the twilight zone, essentially you can’t leave Hong Kong without first getting a departure memo from the immigration office of its task with considering your change of sponsorship application but by the same token you  are not deemed to be an over-stayer at this point, because you’ve essentially regularized it previously, and the Immigration  Department have kind of Iike moved past that issue and they’re now focusing on determining whether or not you should be granted the ability to take up this new employer.

Now normally whilst the Immigration Department absolutely frown on over-stayers, the truth is that if you are genuinely now seeking to change your employer and that employment is for all practical  purposes a like for like employment, you can go into that application with a reasonable  level of confidence that you’re going to get approved notwithstanding the fact that there were these overstay problems associated with you actually formally moving  your application into the Department for your change of employer.

So, if you get stopped on the street, the Immigration Department essentially know all about you, they are not in a position to endorse your passport with anything new presently, as I say until your new employment visa application has been finalized. So, I wouldn’t worry about it, if the Immigration Department were going to make any kind  of example of you, I think you would have probably felt their wrath at that level by now, but given that they seem to have endorsed your passport with the standard card that speaks to the fact that you’ve now got an active reference as regards your application to  change your employer, and that they will as they normally do write to your employer during the currency of the application to change a sponsorship for any outstanding or other  information that will allow them to positively consider it in your favor, that is just the normal way that it works.

So, I believe that the hard part of your experience is behind you, I wouldn’t get worried, if the Immigration Department were going to make a move on you, you will hear about it. If you don’t hear about it, you can take some confidence that they are in fact just moving forward with your application to change your employer. Once, it’s approved they will then endorse your passport with a new limit of stay, which I think is before Q1, should be for a one-year period, if they finalize your application in Q 2, yet to be formally determined by the Immigration Department you’ll then get a 2-year limits of stay in the recently announced enhancement measure.

So, if I can put your mind to rest, I hope I’ve done that, but it seems to me that the situation that you find yourself in, whilst regrettable seems to have been dealt with by your letter of explanation and apology, and the fact that the Immigration Department have received your application to change your sponsor have given you an indication that that’s going ahead as a result of the card in your passport along with the file reference number, and the fact you have representation from an immigration officer that the next move will be a letter to your employer or your proposed employer.

So, all things considered I don’t think you’ve got much to worry about.

Okay, I hope you found this useful and gave you some piece of mind.

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Dec 2023

I Have A PRC National Spouse Resident On the Mainland | Can She Get A Dependant Visa For Hong Kong?

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Can A PRC National Spouse Get A Dependant Visa For Hong Kong?

Can they qualify, if so, how?

Dependant Visa for Hong Kong

The question of immigration status for mainland resident spouses of current or aspiring Hong Kong residents is a bit of a hot potato.

As this PodCast answer below  sets out, there is a dual track system in place in the immigration system which makes for winners and losers – and for once, those with the Right of Abode miss out.

QUESTION

“My employer wishes to relocate me from our Shanghai office back to our Hong Kong office. I previously had a Hong Kong work visa from 2007-2010.

I’ve very recently been married to my mainland Chinese wife. Will the fact that she is mainland Chinese adversely affect our ability to get a work visa for myself and a spouse visa for her?

What steps can I take in order to improve the likelihood that we are approved (besides the marriage certificate, mutual bank statements, and photos showing that we’ve been together for a long time)?”

ANSWER

In recent years PRC national mainland resident spouses, who have been sponsored for dependant visas by foreign nationals living or seeking to live in Hong Kong can apply for dependant visa for Hong Kong just like any other foreign national can.

Consequently, in your circumstances, you can apply for a visa to join you as your spouse without concern or respect to their nationality and the fact that suit residents on the mainland at the moment and this is contrary to the situations faced by residents in Hong Kong, who have the rights of abode, that is their permanent residents.

You see, spouses of Hong Kong permanent residents can only sponsor their mainland spouses into Hong Kong on the One Way Permit system, which is subject to a daily quota and as a [00:48] law of many, many years. And actually this is the same for foreign national permanent residence and native Chinese permanent residents of Hong Kong alike.

So, when you make your application for an employment visa to be collected back from back to Hong Kong from Shanghai, you simply included your wife on the ID 990B employment visa application form and then submit the documents to show that you’re happily married, that you live together until now and that you can financially support her.

She will need an endorsement in her travel document from the local Public Security Bureau in Shanghai as well, but after that, basically, your application should be very straightforward and I will not anticipate that you will have any problems being able to relocate to Hong Kong together.

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